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-{% extends "main/base.html" %}
-{% block title %}Getting Help{% endblock %}
-{% block og_title %}Getting Help{% endblock %}
-{% block og_description %}A guide on how to ask good questions, how to avoid annoying those helping out, and how to interpret answers{% endblock %}
-{% block content %}
- <div class="uk-section">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small">
- <article class="uk-article">
- <h1 class="uk-article-title hover-title" id="top">
- Getting Help
-
- <a href="#top" class="uk-text-primary" title="Permanent link to this header">
- <i class="fas fa-paragraph" data-fa-transform="shrink-8"></i>
- </a>
- </h1>
- <p class="uk-article-meta">
- Everything's exploding, customers are complaining, management's on the fritz!
- </p>
- <p>
- This document is intended to provide you with the information you need to get help as quickly and
- effectively as possible. If you're stuck on a problem or you just don't understand something, feel
- free to join us and ask for help - you can use this as a reference when forming your question.
- </p>
- <p>
- Much of this document is based on the sentiments expressed by Eric Steven Raymond and Rick Moen
- in their essay, <a href="http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html">How To Ask Questions The Smart Way</a>.
- Please note that the essay is very long and may be considered rude by some. Additionally, the people
- behind that essay are in no way affiliated with us - please do not bother them with your Python
- problems.
- </p>
- <h2 class="uk-article-title hover-title" id="before">
- Before You Ask
-
- <a href="#before" class="uk-text-primary" title="Permanent link to this header">
- <i class="fas fa-paragraph" data-fa-transform="shrink-8"></i>
- </a>
- </h2>
- <p class="uk-article-meta">
- Take stock of your problem, and do your homework.
- </p>
- <p>
- Before you ask your question, there are a few things you can do to find an answer on your own.
- Experienced developers will do the following:
- </p>
- <ul>
- <li>Read the official documentation for whatever you're working with</li>
- <li>Use a debugger to inspect your code</li>
- <li>Do some research online - for example, on Stack Overflow</li>
- <li>Read the source code for whatever you're working with</li>
- <li>Search the message history of the help channels</li>
- </ul>
- <p>
- Essentially, doing your research is the first step towards a solution to any problem. If your
- problem isn't extremely general, we're going to be doing exactly these steps ourselves when you ask,
- so doing the legwork beforehand saves everyone a lot of time.
- </p>
- </article>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-section uk-section-muted">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small uk-text-center">
- <blockquote>
- <p>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-left fa-pull-left"></i>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-right fa-pull-right"></i>
- Creativity requires input, and that's what research is. You're gathering material with which to
- build.
- </p>
- <small>
- Gene Luen Yang
- </small>
- </blockquote>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-section">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small">
- <article class="uk-article">
- <p>
- If you're an absolute beginner, take a moment to step back from the problem.
- Have you <a href="https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers">read a book or done a
- tutorial</a>? There's a huge amount of resources out there, many of which are going to help you a lot more than
- us answering the beginners' questions for you. If you're following a tutorial, book or course and
- you don't understand something, then <strong>that</strong> is the correct time to ask a beginners'
- question. Of course, we won't turn you away if you do have a beginners' question &mdash; by all
- means,
- come to us if you do have a problem.
- </p>
- <p>
- Have you read the official documentation for the module or technology you're working with? The
- <a href="https://docs.python.org/3/">official Python 3 docs</a> are a fantastic and valuable
- resource, so if you're using a bundled module, your first port of call should be there. If you're
- using a third-party library, often they will have some official documentation uploaded somewhere
- &mdash;
- try having a Google around, or take a look <a href="https://pypi.org">at PyPi</a> in case they've
- linked it from there.
- </p>
- <p>
- If you can't find the documentation or you find it lacking, the next place to look is the source
- code.
- Grab a decent IDE (we recommend <a href="https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/">PyCharm</a> Community)
- and a coffee, download a copy of the project and open it up, and get to browsing!
- </p>
- <p>
- If you're still confused, try searching the Internet for people that have already had the same
- problem. Often, you won't be the only person to have encountered the issue you're dealing with - more often
- than not, you'll find a GitLab ticket or a StackOverflow question along with a fix or answer to your
- question already posted.
- </p>
- <p>
- If none of the above helps you or you're lost, scared and alone, feel free to continue on to the
- Discord server. You can use the search feature (the <i class="fas fa-search"></i> at the top right) to check
- whether someone else has asked your question recently, or just feel free to pick one of the help channels
- and ask your question.
- </p>
- <h2 class="uk-article-title hover-title" id="good-question">
- A Good Question
-
- <a href="#good-question" class="uk-text-primary" title="Permanent link to this header">
- <i class="fas fa-paragraph" data-fa-transform="shrink-8"></i>
- </a>
- </h2>
- <p class="uk-article-meta">
- Thank you for helping us help you help us all.
- </p>
- <p>
- When you're ready to ask a question, there's a few things you should have to hand before forming
- a query.
- </p>
- <ul>
- <li>
- A code example that illustrates your problem
- <ul>
- <li>If possible, make this a minimal example rather than an entire application</li>
- </ul>
- </li>
- <li>Details on how you attempted to solve the problem on your own</li>
- <li>Full version information &mdash; for example, <em class="uk-text-primary">"Python 3.6.4 with
- discord.py 1.0.0a"</em></li>
- </ul>
- <p>
- Your question should be informative, but to the point. More importantly, how you phrase your
- question
- and how you address those that may help you is crucial. Courtesy never hurts, and please type
- using correctly-spelled and grammatical language as far as you possibly can.
- </p>
- <p>
- When you're inspecting a problem, don't be quick to assume that you've found a bug, or that your
- approach is correct. While it helps to detail what exactly you're trying to do, you should also
- be able to give us the bigger picture - describe the goal, not just the step. Describe the problem's
- symptoms in chronological order - not your guesses as to their cause.
- </p>
- </article>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-section uk-section-muted">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small uk-text-center">
- <div class="uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-primary">
- <p class="uk-text-bold uk-text-center">
- Bad Questions
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-primary">
- <p class="uk-text-bold uk-text-center">
- Good Questions
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-grid-divider uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-danger">
- <p>
- Where can I find information on discord.py?
- </p>
- <p class="uk-text-meta">
- This question suggests that the person asking it hasn't done any research, or even a simple
- Google search.
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-success">
- <p>
- I used Google to try to find more information about "discord.py 1.0.0a", but I couldn't
- really
- find anything useful. Does anyone know where I might find a guide to writing commands
- using this library?
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-grid-divider uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-danger">
- <p>
- Pillow puts my text at the bottom of the image instead of where I wanted it. Why is it broken?
- </p>
- <p class="uk-text-meta">
- This question assumes that the problem is with Pillow itself, and that it isn't
- the questioner's fault. It also doesn't provide enough information on the problem.
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-success">
- <p>
- Pillow appears to insert text at the bottom of the image if the given X coordinate is negative.
- I had a look at the documentation and searched Stack Overflow, but I couldn't find any
- information on using negative coordinates to position text. Has anyone attempted this?
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-grid-divider uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-danger">
- <p>
- I'm having some trouble writing a YouTube random URL generator - can anyone help?
- </p>
- <p class="uk-text-meta">
- This question provides no information on the problem, and asks for help in a way that isn't
- engaging - some people will find this annoying, as answering your question is guaranteed
- to result in another question.
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-success">
- <p>
- My YouTube random URL generator appears to be returning false positives for tested URLs,
- stating that a URL points to a real video when that video doesn't actually exist. Obviously
- there's some issue with how this is checked, but I can't put my finger on it. Is there anything
- I can check?
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-grid-divider uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-danger">
- <p>
- I want to share a YouTube video with my friend, but the video doesn't move when I print the page.
- How do I make the video move?
- </p>
- <p class="uk-text-meta">
- This question assumes a specific (wrong) approach, and isn't open-ended enough to account for
- the possibility of a better solution.
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-success">
- <p>
- I'm attempting to figure out the best way to share a YouTube video with my friend that doesn't
- have the Internet at home. I can't think of a better approach than printing the page, which
- obviously doesn't help much given that the video doesn't move on the paper - can anyone think
- of a better approach to this?
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- <div>
- <hr class="uk-divider-icon"/>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-grid-divider uk-child-width-expand" uk-grid>
- <div class="uk-text-danger">
- <p>
- I was given this assignment by my teacher, but I'm not sure how to approach it. Does anyone
- have any ideas?
- </p>
- <p class="uk-text-meta">
- This question is clearly a homework question. Homework is supposed to challenge you, and we
- will not provide solutions to homework. Instead, ask a more general question.
- </p>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-text-success">
- <p>
- I have a list of numbers - how do I calculate how many of them are even? Is there a way
- to remove all the odd numbers from my list? Are there quick ways to find the average of
- a list of numbers, or add them all together?
- </p>
- </div>
- </div>
- </div>
- </div>
- <div class="uk-section">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small">
- <article class="uk-article">
- <h2 class="uk-article-title hover-title" id="answers">
- Interpreting Answers
-
- <a href="#answers" class="uk-text-primary" title="Permanent link to this header">
- <i class="fas fa-paragraph" data-fa-transform="shrink-8"></i>
- </a>
- </h2>
- <p class="uk-article-meta">
- Wow, rude.
- </p>
- <p>
- Programmers have a certain set of mannerisms. While we all try to be as courteous with our replies
- as possible, occasionally it may seem as if a helper is annoyed or disinterested in your question.
- This isn't personal - it's just part of our culture. Remember that the people you're asking for help
- are humans and that they're here voluntarily, in their free time.
- </p>
- <p>
- If you've asked a question and you're told to read the documentation or search the web, you should
- do that. When this happens, it's often the case that the person responding has the information you need
- open in their web browser and either thinks that it's very easy to find, or that you would learn
- more from seeking out the source of the information yourself. If you've already done this, you should
- tell us by including it in your question!
- </p>
- <p>
- If you don't understand an answer, don't immediately bounce back and demand clarification. Use the
- tools available to you (the internet, documentation, source code) to help you understand the answer, and
- if you still can't figure it out, ask for clarification and provide any relevant information you learned
- during your research.
- </p>
- </article>
- </div>
- </div>
-
- <div class="uk-section uk-section-muted">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small uk-text-center">
- <blockquote>
- <p>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-left fa-pull-left"></i>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-right fa-pull-right"></i>
- Successful people ask better questions, and as a result, they get better answers.
- </p>
- <small>
- Tony Robbins
- </small>
- </blockquote>
- </div>
- </div>
-
- <div class="uk-section">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small">
- <article class="uk-article">
- <p>
- Much of what looks like rudeness within programming communities is not intended to be offensive and
- it's often just a product of the down-to-earth, direct style of communication that is typical in
- a community that is more concerned with solving problems than anything else. If you perceive
- rudeness, try to react calmly. If a user really is acting out, then chances are that a member of staff will
- call them out on it. If this doesn't happen, contact a member of staff directly and they will try
- to clarify this with you.
- </p>
- <p>
- It's okay to mess up. It happens to all of us. That said, if you mess up badly enough, it's likely
- that you will be corrected there and then, in public and with a verbal scalpel. Take this as a
- learning experience and don't let it get to you - this is a common and appropriate response in
- many programming circles. Community standards do not maintain themselves - they're maintained by
- people applying actively them, visibly, in public.
- </p>
-
- <h2 class="uk-article-title hover-title" id="what-not-to-ask">
- What Not To Ask
-
- <a href="#what-not-to-ask" class="uk-text-primary" title="Permanent link to this header">
- <i class="fas fa-paragraph" data-fa-transform="shrink-8"></i>
- </a>
- </h2>
- <p class="uk-article-meta">
- Sample questions to avoid as much as possible.
- </p>
-
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- Can I ask a question?
- </p>
- <p>
- Yes. Always yes. Just ask it.
- </p>
-
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- Can I use str() on a discord.py Channel object?
- </p>
- <p>
- Try it yourself and see. Experimentation is a great way to learn, and you'll save a lot of time by
- just trying things out. Don't be afraid of your computer!
- </p>
-
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- My code doesn't work
- </p>
- <p>
- This isn't a question, and it provides absolutely no context or information. Depending on the moods
- of the people that are around, you may even find yourself ignored. Don't be offended by this - just
- try
- again with a better question.
- </p>
- </article>
- </div>
- </div>
-
- <div class="uk-section uk-section-muted">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small uk-text-center">
- <blockquote>
- <p>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-left fa-pull-left"></i>
- <i class="fas fa-quote-right fa-pull-right"></i>
- So much of life isn’t about having the right answer; it’s about knowing the right question.
- </p>
- <small>
- Duane Hewitt
- </small>
- </blockquote>
- </div>
- </div>
-
- <div class="uk-section">
- <div class="uk-container uk-container-small">
- <article class="uk-article">
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- Can anyone help me break into someone's Facebook account?<br/>
- Can anyone help me download anime from this streaming site's listing page?<br/>
- How do I write a virus?
- </p>
- <p>
- We will absolutely not help you with hacking, pirating, or any other illegal activity. A question
- like this is likely to be followed up with a ban if the person asking it doesn't back down quickly.
- </p>
-
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- Can I send you a private message?
- </p>
- <p>
- No. We do not provide one-on-one tutoring - you can hire someone locally if you really need that. We
- also prefer that questions are answered in a public channel as it means that everyone else present
- is able to learn from them. If you're working with code that you are unable to disclose for any
- reason, you should try to make your question more general and write a separate, small piece of code
- to illustrate your problem.
- </p>
-
- <p class="uk-text-lead">
- Can you help me over Teamviewer?
- </p>
- <p>
- No. We will not help you by accessing your computer remotely, or watching a video stream of your
- problem, unless the problem is something that inherently requires that. The reason for this is that
- our time is limited, and watching a video or participating in a screen-sharing session means that we
- have to focus on you, instead of being able to deal with other people while you're figuring out an
- answer. If your problem is graphical and you can't adequately describe it without a visual, take a
- screenshot or provide a short screen recording to illustrate your problem.
- </p>
- </article>
- </div>
- </div>
-{% endblock %} \ No newline at end of file